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Wednesday, 19 October 2005
What did mr Bush know about the leaks?
All the talk about Rove and Libby being indicted. Seems to me they work for mr. Bush and mr. Chaney. If they talked to reporters it was probably on direct orders from their boss. Wouldn't matter, neither one of them has ever told the truth about anything. See where mr. Chaney got several million worth of stock options from his (former) company. If he doesn't work for them now, he should be, seeing as how he has made them a bundle with his no bid contracts. Oh well, politics as usual. Do anything and everything except what you supposidly get elected for.

Posted by 1bigtree at 9:55 PM EDT
Monday, 10 October 2005
Subject: [Tradition_OF_The_Redroad] Questions To Ponder As Columbus Day nears...

Another Message from the United Confederation of Taino People (UCTP):

Questions To Ponder As Columbus Day nears...

Please forward and print (one copy or many) this questionnaire and
distribute as widely as possible.
Please consider having your children hand it to their teachers, post
it on the bulletin board at your community center,
discuss it with your friends and neighbors, mailing a copy to your
Mayor, City Council and House Representatives,
Senators, Governor and President -- why are politicians neglecting to
do something about this absurd & abominable
holy day (that IS what holiday means) that only serves the purpose of
rubbing salt into some of the old, festering wounds
of so many in our multi-cultural society.


What is the meaning of this day to each of us, or is there any meaning
at all?
Please bring this up as a topic of discussion with others, and send us
a message at to let us know what kind of responses you are getting.


Questions To Ponder As Columbus Day nears:

1. Columbus sailed into the Caribbean and never even set foot in what
is now known as the United States.
So, why do we, in the United States, give him one of our 8 Federal

2. Why should Columbus be given credit for "discovering" the Americas
anyway, when we all know those l
ands were already inhabited and had been for thousands of years?
Didn't the inhabitants of those lands discover them?
Look at any map of the US and see the many, many, many states, cities
and towns that all bear the Native American
names of people and peoples who once populated those regions:
Illinois, Oklahoma, Cheyenne, Nantuckett, Milwaukee,
Yuma, Omaha, Witchita, Tallahassee, Mississippi, Muskogee, Tennessee,
Allegheny, Missouri, Kentucky, Huron,
Tuscalloosa and on and on and on......

3. Knowing that Native Americans were already here, and Columbus never
was here, why does anyone go along
with the myth that "Columbus Discovered America", when we all know it
is not true?

4. Why aren't we taught the whole truth about Columbus' actions and
the devastating consequences of those actions?
Why are we only told about Columbus, who as a boy who always wanted to
sail and then when he got older
Spain provided him three ships & he sailed across the ocean and
(where millions of Taino had lived for thousands of years and which we
now call the Caribbean).

5. Why are we only taught about that FIRST voyage, and not the other 3
voyages, when all hell broke loose?
Why aren't we taught about how on the second voyage, unlike the first
when Columbus only had 3 small old ships,
Columbus was given 17 large ships and 1,500 armed men eagerly signed
up for the chance to go to the "New World"
with hopes of getting rich quick on the gold to be found there? Also,
why aren't we taught about the greed and brutality
of the Spaniards against the Taino (who have been remembered as "naked
savages" in our history books, if at all), and how
the Taino were murdered and enslaved on that second voyage?

Why are we not taught about the third voyage & how when King Ferdinand
& Queen Isabella of Spain heard about
Columbus' actions in the "New World" he was sent back to Spain in
chains to stand trial for his crimes, was convicted
and stripped of his titles? Or, how the Spaniards tricked 80 of the
Taino leaders into a hut and burned them alive? Isn't
to omit the ugly part of the truth considered LYING BY OMISSION? Then,
that is what our schools are doing when
they only teach about the first voyage, they are lying by omission to
our students, and we as a improperly educated
country have a holiday for an evil, greedy, slave-trading, murderer.

Some people say he is worthy of the honor of a holiday for his
nautical genius, but the Vikings sailed across the ocean
to North America 500 years before, Marco Polo sailed to China & India
300 years prior and the Chinese set foot upon
the very shores that Columbus did 71 years prior to the arrival of
Columbus, the difference being, Columbus "claimed"
the land and cites the Papal Bulls with giving him the authority to do
so if no one disputes the action, and Columbus
according to his journal, was careful to add that no one disputed it
at the time, while admitting at the same time that
they could not understand each other, so how could they be expected to
understand what his flag-planting and
pronunciations meant?

6. Many people will argue that Columbus brought Western Civilization
to what is now known as the United States,
and that is the reason the US bestows upon him the honor of a holiday.
But how can we make that correlation when
Columbus, working for Spain, came in 1492 and the European colonizers,
who came here TWO HUNDRED years later,
came from England? If Columbus is worthy of being given credit for
this "achievement", wouldn't it have happened
200 years earlier and wouldn't we all be speaking Spanish now as the
countries he invaded do?

7. Some people will argue that Columbus Day is a day for recognition
of Italians, an Italian Pride Day.
Are Italians more worthy of recognition than other ethnic groups in
this country we have proudly (?) nicknamed
"The Melting Pot"? I have heard Italians say that Germans have
Oktoberfest, the Irish have St. Patrick's Day and
Mexicans have Cinco de Mayo, but none of those are FEDERAL holidays.
The only two ethnic groups worthy
of recognition for their contributions and sacrifice in this land are
those who were ALREADY HERE when the
Europeans came and those who the Europeans BROUGHT HERE IN CHAINS. All
other ethnic groups came
here voluntarily.

It was long overdue but African Americans finally got their holiday -
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day in January....
but Native Americans still don't have a holiday (urge your
congressmen and women to support House Bill #167).

Some people think he is deserving of the honor because he proved the
world was round, but this was already a
widely accepted belief by educated people at the time as Ptolemy, the
ancient astronomer and geographer from
Egypt, declared that the Earth was spherical in the

second century.

8. Why do 17 states refuse to recognize and/or celebrate Columbus Day?

9. Why do protestors gather and march at every Columbus Day Parade?

10. And, WHY is Columbus honored with one of our 8 federal holidays in
the US when:

a. He didn't "discover" us, or anything previously undiscovered or

b. He never set foot on what is now U.S. soil

c. His legacy is greed, theft, destruction, brutality, slave-trading
and murder

d. It is offensive to Latin American, African American and Native

e. Native Americans, who were here and are worthy of a holiday, still
don't have one.

11. And why have the Taino people of the Caribbean and those in the
US, whose ancestors have paid such a huge
price for the misfortune of being "discovered", been erroneously
declared extinct and are therefore denied legal
recognition by the government?

***To learn more about the truth, read books like In Defense of the
Indians by Bartolome de Las Casas,
A Peoples History by Howard Zinn, Lies My Teacher Told Me by James
Louwen and Rethinking Columbus
by Bigelow and Peterson.***

Posted by 1bigtree at 9:20 PM EDT
Tuesday, 27 September 2005
Constitution II
The first thing I notice is "Section 1.(legislative powers:in whom vested:) All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and a House of Representives. That means the President nor the various agencies can not write or make laws. They only have the power to carry out existing laws. So where did the Federal Register become a tool for enacting laws? Anything published in that, by definition has to be directed at carrying out of existing laws as passed by Congress. Many burdosome regulations would be eliminated just by challenging their legality. Up to us to do it.
Congress has the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations, among the several states and with indian Tribes. How many jobs have been lost because congress hasn't done its job of regulating and colected duties on foreign goods?
I will write some more tomarrow. I invite anyone visiting to post their own info, pet peve or suggestion, or comment on anything I have posted.

Posted by 1bigtree at 10:35 PM EDT
Monday, 26 September 2005
The US Constution and us.
I have been called unamerican recently. Why? Because I question much that the Federal Government is doing any more. I asked who is legal and who is taking powers not given by the Constitution.

You have to remember that the United States is made up of 50 Nation/States, though to begin with only 13. Thus each of them were very jealous of their powers as a State(nation). So they created a Federation which had a specific purpose and specific limits to its power.

Its purpose was very well stated.
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The States in effect agreed to give some powers to the Federation while retaining the rest of the powers for themself. In 1787 when it was first proposed only Deleware agreed to it. Rhode Island didn't agre until 1790. Two states in approving it reserved the right to leave the federation in the future if it assumed too many powers, NY and VA. In fact those two states agreed to it by very narrow margins. NY by a vote of 30 to 27 and VA by a vote of 89 to 79. No state agreed to it unamously.

Tomarrow I will get into what it allows and what it prevents. In the mean time I suggest that you post your own thoughts and ideas right here, either by comments or by posting your own article.

Posted by 1bigtree at 9:15 PM EDT
Thursday, 22 September 2005
Today life goes on
Today I was riding Fancy to give her a workout, and wishing in the 94 deg. heat that we would get some rain. We are over 48 inches behind in the last 6 years. Well behind for the month and year so far. Yet at the same time Katrina flooded NO and Rita is about to flood the whole SW coast of the Gulf.

We got about 1/10" of rain from Katrina and if this storm follows the same path, will get about the same from Rita. Too much somewhere, not enough elsewhere. Yet life goes on. Thats the most important part. No matter what happens, we have to remember that life goes on. Maybe not as we would like, but we pick up the parts we have and continue.

Posted by 1bigtree at 10:37 PM EDT
Thursday, 15 September 2005
What Grandmother shared with me
A list of things the elders always asked anyone who came to them for help,
and two other questions the first of which Grandmother added, the second one
I added. Answer them for yourself, their is no right answer.

1: Who are you?
This is not the name given on your birth certificate, but who or what you
feel deep inside.

2: Where are you from?
This in the old days told the elder who among the elders had a influence on
the person. Today it is used by the elders to judge how to respond to the

3: Why are you here?
Why are you seeking help outside yourself. Why you are asking the elder to
help you, and most important why you are here.

4: What are you doing about it?
What are you doing about the answer to the first 3 questions.

5: How will it affect the next 7 generations?
How will your answers to the first four questions affect the next seven
generations. Will you make a difference.

Sent with love,
Big Tree

Posted by 1bigtree at 10:52 PM EDT
Sunday, 11 September 2005
Today is the anniversery of 9-11. Are we safer today then we were then? Has Osama bin Laden been captured? Was the invasion of Iraqi about fighting terrist? Is the boondogle of Katrina a part of the war in iraq? Has the Patriot Act been worth it? As far as I can see, the only one who has profited from 9-11 and the rest of the failures of the bush administration is mr. Chaney. Why should one man and one company profit from the human misery that is the administrations policy? Please comment and post what you think. I hate to think so many good people here and in the so called war zones, were killed for the personal profit of mr. chaney and co.

Posted by 1bigtree at 10:13 PM EDT
Friday, 9 September 2005
Yellowatonw Buffalo
What happens when cattle are ALLOWED TO GRAZE ON National Forest land. We subsidize this?

Subject: [Tradition_OF_The_Redroad] BFC/Update from the Field

Buffalo Field Campaign (BFC)
News from the Field
September 8, 2005

In This Issue:

* Update From the Field--Montana Approves Bison Hunt
* How You Can Help Stop the Hunt: A Call to Action!
* Last Words - No Habitat, No Hunt!

* Update From the Field--Montana Approves Bison Hunt

For the first time in 15 years, hunters will shoot Yellowstone bison as they exit the park on their seasonal migration into Montana. The Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks Commission adopted regulations for the 2005-2006 bison hunt at its meeting earlier today.

The Commission approved two seasons: one between Nov. 15, 2005 and Jan. 15, 2006 and another from Jan. 16, 2006 to Feb. 15, 2006. The hunts will take place along the park's northern boundary near Gardiner, MT and along its western boundary near West Yellowstone. A total of 50 permits will be issued, including 10 already issued for last year's cancelled hunt.

This latest incarnation of a buffalo hunt in Montana is nothing more than an affirmation that Montana will not tolerate wild buffalo in the state. As the policy is currently laid out, wild buffalo entering Montana will remain under the authority of the Montana Department of Livestock (DOL). The DOL's only "concession" to the buffalo is to refrain from hazing, capturing and killing them for the three months that hunters will shoot any buffalo that wanders out of Yellowstone National Park. If more than 25 buffalo are out of the Park in either period or if any buffalo wanders past the allotted area, the DOL may decide to haze or capture the buffalo leading to a temporary suspension of the hunt. In either case, any wild buffalo that enters Montana between November 15 and February 15 will be killed for following their migratory instincts.

Beginning February 16 the DOL will implement a massive capture, test and slaughter program with the goal of transporting 100 buffalo calves that test negative for brucellosis antibodies to the quarantine facility near Gardiner, Montana. The DOL, together with the National Park Service, will likely capture well over 500 buffalo throughout the winter and spring to reach their goal of 100 calves for quarantine. The agencies (including the same FWP game wardens that will administer the hunt) will continue to terrorize one of the most sensitive ecosystems in the United States with daily hazing operations that include low-flying helicopters, snowmobiles, ATV's, trucks and horses. Many buffalo will be needlessly killed or injured until the landscape is completely empty of buffalo. Those that do survive the spring will have next year's hunt to look forward to before the hammer of the livestock industry once again falls the following spring.

The buffalo hunt is still completely unacceptable for all of the same reasons it was last year. In fact, this year's proposal will lead to more buffalo being killed in the fall than under current operations. In essence, the addition of a buffalo hunt will completely eliminate any and all wild buffalo that enter Montana. The FWP Commission's decision is nothing more than a political whitewash that will not succeed in hiding the ugliness and blatant injustice of the current policies. Three significant criteria highlight problems with the proposed hunt. First, wild buffalo in Montana should be under the sole management authority of FWP. The Dept. of Livestock has no rightful business managing wildlife, particularly the last wild buffalo herd in the United States. Second, buffalo must be given access to sufficient habitat in Montana where they can establish resident herds. In other words, "No Habitat, No Hunt!" Third, Native American tribes throughout the region must be included and involved in the decision making process for the management of wild buffalo that migrate outside of Yellowstone National Park. A long-term comprehensive management plan should be developed that includes all of the interested parties, especially traditional Native Americans who maintain a relationship with the buffalo that transcends modern wildlife management theories and practices.

Read BFC's Press Release on today's hunt approval:

* How We Can Stop the Hunt: A Call to Action!

In the early 1990s, the last time Montana authorized a buffalo hunt, images of the hunt were broadcast from coast to coast. These images of buffalo being shot repeatedly and at close range created a public outcry that damaged Montana's reputation and ultimately led to the cancellation of the hunt.

While such public opposition stopped last year's hunt a few days before it was set to begin, Montana seems intent on going forward with a hunt this year. If they do, we will be there so everyone in the country can see what a bison hunt really looks like.

With hunts this year set to take place simultaneously near West Yellowstone and Gardiner, BFC will need to be both places at once. We are making preparations to rent and equip a second field camp, but we can't do it without your help.

The number of BFC patrols will likely double, meaning we will need twice as many video cameras, radios, and volunteers. We will also need more food, equipment, and supplies to keep those volunteers warm, dry, and well-fed through high-stress circumstances in one of the coldest climates in North America.

We are calling on our network of supporters to help meet the costs of these additional patrols. You make it possible for us to be with the buffalo and it is more important than ever that we are here this year. Please send a contribution or make a secure online donation from our web site today. Donations are tax-deductible and go directly to our front-lines work.

If you are interested in joining us in the field as a volunteer during the 2005-2006 winter/spring season, email:

Last Words:

"Gory network television images--wounded buffalo bleeding onto the snow struggling desperately to get back on their feet, being shot three and four times before they died--drummed up an outrage that sent everybody involved scrambling to explain."

Outside Magazine, May 1991 (on the last Montana buffalo hunt)


Media Coordinator
Buffalo Field Campaign
PO Box 957
West Yellowstone, MT 59758
(406) 646-0070

BFC is the only group working in the field every day
to defend the last wild herd of buffalo in America.

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Speak Out! Contact politicians and involved agencies today!

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Posted by 1bigtree at 8:44 PM EDT
Wednesday, 7 September 2005
More Katrina
Subject: [Native-Prophecy] Fw: how our government Disaster response is SUPPOSED to work

Fw: From my Canine Daytona Beach, FL Cop friend who was serving in N.Orleans...

----- Original Message -----
From: GCrunchbird
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:02 PM

In case you aren't familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to work: The chain of responsibility for the protection of the citizens in New Orleans is:

1. The Mayor
2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee of the Governor who reports to the Governor)
3. The Governor
4. The Head of Homeland Security
5. The President

What did each do?

1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then he failed to provide transportation for those without transport even though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal.

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he blames the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much for political appointees)

3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2 DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be ready when the Governor called for them

5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt (democrat) government going all the way back to Huey Long.

Funds for disaster protection and relief have been flowing into this city for decades, and where has it gone, but into the pockets of the politicos and their friends.

Decades of socialist government in New Orleans has sapped all self reliance from the community, and made them dependent upon government for every little thing.

Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created the single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted gang violence to flourish.

The sad thing is that there are many poor folks who have suffered and died needlessly because those that they voted into office failed them.

For those who missed item 5 (where the President??™s level of accountability is discussed), it is made more clear in a New Orleans Times-Picayune article dated August 28:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) ??” In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray Nagin.

Acknowledging that large numbers of people, many of them stranded tourists, would be unable to leave, The city set up 10 places of last resort for people to go, including the Superdome.

The mayor called the order unprecedented and said anyone who could leave the city should. He exempted hotels from the evacuation order because airlines had already canceled all flights.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding. (emphasis mine)

The ball was placed in Mayor Nagin??™s court to carry out the evacuation order. With 5-day heads-up, he had the authority to use any and all services to evacuate all residents from the city, as documented in a city emergency preparedness plan. By waiting until the last minute, and failing to make full use of resources available within city limits, Nagin and his administration messed up.

Mayor Nagin and his emergency sidekick Terry Ebbert have displayed lethal, mind boggling incompetence before, during and after Katrina.

As for Mayor Nagin, he and his profile in pathetic leadership police chief should resign. That city??™s government is incompetent from one end to the other. The people of New Orleans deserve better than this crowd of clowns is capable of giving them.

If you??™re keeping track, these boobs let 569 buses that could have carried 33,350 people out of New Orleans??“in one trip??“get ruined in the floods. Whatever plan these guys had, it was a dud. Or it probably would have been if they??™d bothered to follow it.

As for all the race-baiting rhetoric and Bush-bashing coming from prominent blacks on the left, don't expect Ray Nagin to be called out on the carpet for falling short. You want to know why? Here??™s why:

It??™s more convenient to blame a white president for what went wrong than to hold a black mayor and his administration accountable for gross negligence and failing to fully carry out an established emergency preparedness plan.

To hold Nagin and his administration accountable for dropping the ball amounts to letting loose the shouts and cries of ??œRacism!?? . It??™s sad, it??™s wrong, but it??™s standard operating procedure for the media and left-wing black leadership.

Mark my words: you will not hear a word of criticism from Jesse Jackson Sr., Randall Robinson, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, or Kanye West being directed toward Clarence Ray Nagin Jr. Why? Because he is just another black politician instead of a responsible elected official who happens to be black. In the mindset of more-blacker-than-thou blacks, black politicians who are on their side can do no wrong.

Posted by 1bigtree at 10:16 PM EDT
Monday, 5 September 2005
collodial Silver
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:18:25 -0700
From: "cherielynnae"
Subject: CS & Katrina

Well I hope someone out there is mass producing CS to send to New
Orleans!!! Mississippi, and Alabama.
If anyone could use it, they certainly can, and to all those shelters
housing over 100,000 people who were wading in the unimaginable crap in
water. Id be handing that stuff out in bottled water if I were there
right now! If I had a helicopter, of a bomber plane, Id be spraying the
entire Gulf Coast with massive doses of it.

Utopia Silver, youre in Texas, get moving!!! You got a host of people who
need you now!

Watching all this on TV makes my bones shiver at the possibility of massive
infections and disease that just may be brewing right this minute on all
those poor folks who have nothing left. There is no way we can provide
antibiotic to all of them, (and I wouldnt do that anyways) so maybe we all
should be thinking about that and shipping it to them somehow.

All those comapanies out there with their mailing list, find those who
bought silver, send them free CS by the gallons, if you can find them, you
already know they believe in it and they will share it Im sure. You can
offer it on the net, and Im sure people will see it. Id help promote it on
my website as I do now anyways!!!

And thats how much I beleive in it!

We can all do something, no one has to sit on their duff, everyone has to
help this mess. Some how, Some way.

Im gathering as many backpacks filled with school supplies for kids, and
asking everyone I know to do it while the sales are still on, including many
churches and organizations. Filling Backpacks for adults with things like
makeup, shampoo, nail clippers, nail files, radios, portable little TV's,
batteries, flashlights, shaving and personal hygiene items, socks, sewing
kits, gift certificates from Wal Mart, Target , Food..etc.. anything... and
it will help and at the least give something they can use.

Pardon me for a moment for a clich?...

In the immortal words of Bette Midler

From a distance, the world looks blue and green
and the snow-capped mountains white.
From a distance the ocean meets the stream
and the eagle takes to flight.
From a distance there is harmony
and it echoes through the land.
It's the voice of hope, it's the voice of peace,
it's the voice of every man.
From a distance, we all have enough
And no one is in need.
There are no guns, no bombs, no diseases,
No hungry mouths to feed.
From a distance we are instruments
Marching in a common band
Playing songs of hope, playing songs of peace
They're the songs of every man.
God is watching us
God is watching us
God is watching us from a distance.
From a distance, you look like my friend
Even though we are at war.
From a distance I cannot comprehend
What all the fighting is for.
From a distance there is harmony
And it echoes through the land.
It's the hope of hopes, it's the love of loves.
It's the heart of every man.
God is watching us
God is watching us
God is watching us from a distance.

Remember them in your daily prayers...

Cherie Lynnae

Posted by 1bigtree at 6:09 PM EDT

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